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Wilcox Responds: I’m Not A Writer & I Like Pop-Up Books

Tuesday, January 29th, 2008

 JJ, here.

While Josh is on his way to the Super Bowl, he wanted me to post this in response to some of the comments that were made to an earlier post (Josh Wilcox: ‘08, Recruiting, JStew & The Pit Crew).

Before I do, I want to thank Josh for being a part of Duck Sports News.  Josh and I have known each other for a long time.  When I thought about offering Josh the opportunity to contribute to our blog, I honestly didn’t know what we would get.  What I did know is that Josh has a unique familiarity with Oregon football and athletics that makes him more than qualified to offer his opinion on Oregon sports.  Playing in the 1995 Rose Bowl alone, qualified him in my book.

[JJ note: If anyone else from that team wants to contribute to Duck Sports News (Danny? Bobby?), we would more than welcome it.  Actually, if you are a former Oregon athlete, we would like to hear from you.  Who knows Oregon sports better than you?]

I also knew that we would be getting the opinion from a hard-nosed football player with a different take on things.  And in typical football, and Josh, fashion, after getting hit, he wants to hit back.

Here’s Josh.

Seems I have ruffled some feathers on some of my subjects but you know I never knew I was a sports writer.  No matter your opinion of me, if you know me or not, I was asked by some friends due to my involvement in the past with Oregon Athletics to write a blog.  Its fun and I can add my twisted sense of humor to it, but do not consider me a sports writer.  I am a Duck fan through and through and am lucky to do this.  So lets get a couple of things straight.

1. I am not questioning Freedom of Speech or any of that.  I just think the excuse we used not to take away signs was just bogus.  Not a knock on the AD he is doing an outstanding job, not a knock on anything else, but the excuse was just lame.

2. I would really like to thank some of you for pointing out that I need “writing and skills”  Again I am not writer, in fact my favorite book(s) are pop-up’s.

3. The Pit Crew is made up of many great fans and it won’t happen again I am sure.  I just hope this helps some Duck fans realize there are lines to sportsmanship and we crossed it.

4. I have not played basketball since High School so I really don’t think I am the right guy to write about the Oregon Basketball team and its woes.  I only wrote about the crowd due to the fact I have been there before.

5. I would take as many 5 star recruits you can with heart and talent.  Your right the coaches at USC do get them to play well together.  That is why they have won national championships.  All I am saying is that if you purely go off a star rating on how good a player is supposed to be you are judging on the wrong things.  Some 5 Star recruits are just that, like Stewart.  But the harsh reality is no matter what star you are it takes more than your high school ranking to play in the PAC-10.  Our Coaches have done a great job of getting character guys and continue to do so, but at the end of the year no one cares how many high school yards you had, or what star you were, it was how did you help your team to a bowl game?

Thanks to all of you for allowing me to have fun doing “Wilcox over the Middle” and providing feedback.  So while most of you in Eugene continue to thaw out I am headed down to Phoenix for a couple days of Super Bowl parties and fun.  And since this is the sport where I have a little more knowledge, my pick is New England.  But, honestly, if it is not Oregon Football, who cares?

AD Smith: Harsh Treatment Fires Up Players, Fans

Tuesday, January 29th, 2008

By AD Smith
DSN Contributor

The Pit Crew was pretty rough on Kevin Love. What kind of treatment of athletes by fans do you think is acceptable and unacceptable? (Ross - Eugene)

I’m fairly liberal with what should be allowed by fans in College Basketball. It’s the enthusiasm of college students that helps make the game so much better than the NBA.

I played in every Pac-10 venue on multiple occasions and I know that fans can be pretty harsh. I personally was never bothered much by profanity. If an individual fan in the student section wants to yell profanities at Kevin Love, I actually think it’s OK. It’s my opinion that most players take it as a sign of respect. It can actually get a player fired up; make him feel like he’s “the man.” After all, the crowd seldom gets on the 4th guy off the bench.

What I do think is unacceptable is group chants using profanity. Young kids sitting 100 feet from the student section shouldn’t have to hear some of the things being said at Mac Court against UCLA. Within the student section almost anything goes but “normal” fans in the arena shouldn’t be exposed to it. I think Kevin Love has broad enough shoulders to handle anything the PIT Crew can throw at him. It’s just that fans, specifically young fans, don’t need to and shouldn’t have to hear it.

When you chose Oregon, did concern for how you would be viewed here in Oregon influence your decision? (Scott - Eugene)

First of all, my situation and that of Kevin Love and former South Medford star Kyle Singler were completely different. I probably had 6-7 scholarship offers and came to Oregon because it was the best one I had. Both Love and Singler could have literally gone anywhere they wanted.

Of course I was excited about getting to stay at home and I would’ve chosen Oregon over 90%+ of other schools. They probably felt the same way. It’s just that Duke and UCLA were in the other 10%. If Stanford had offered me a scholarship as a High School senior I wouldn’t have thought twice about going. Arizona? I’d have been working on my tan. I don’t blame Love or Singler at all for leaving. They needed to look out for themselves; not worry about the state of Oregon Basketball.

Does Mac Court’s home court advantage outweigh a larger negative perception of Duck fans & the Pit Crew? (Jay - Springfield)

I don’t believe in the “larger negative perception” of Duck fans and the Pit Crew. It is true that Thursday’s actions against UCLA shouldn’t be excused and without question they lacked class. That, however, shouldn’t take away from years of being the best student section in the conference.

What do television viewers hear before every FSN broadcast? (Other than that the seniors take Yoga and billiards classes)

What they hear is how wonderful Mac Court is. How the Pit is the Cameron Indoor of the West Coast. What the average fan probably doesn’t realize is how true that statement really is. To play in a game at USC, UCLA, or ASU is not even comparable. The passion of fans within Mac Court, the advantage of that enthusiasm, makes playing in the Pit a truly unique experience.

Last week’s events notwithstanding, the perception of fans at Mac Court around the Conference is mostly positive. They are loud, enthusiastic, and passionate. To say one night’s actions will change that reputation is unfair.

(On a side note: re-creating that atmosphere in a new facility will be the key factor in the future success of Oregon Basketball. If Oregon builds a cushy stadium where everyone wants to sit and enjoy the game (like at ASU) Oregon Basketball will take a big step backward.)

After Losing 4 straight games, are the Ducks NCAA Tournament hopes dead? (Jim– Albany)

Not quite dead, but seriously threatened.

Oregon’s road to the NCAA can happen if they win 10 conference games. The most likely way for that to happen is for the Ducks to go 7-2 at home and 3-6 on the road. To accomplish that they’ll need to win their remaining 5 home games and hope to win at OSU and either USC, UCLA, Stanford, or Cal.

While that may sound like a daunting challenge, Oregon does have the talent and experience to go on a big run. They’ve bounced back before and I wouldn’t be surprised if they do it again.

The part that gives me the most reason for concern is how they played against USC.

Oregon played very extremely well in previous games against highly ranked WSU and UCLA, but looked completely out of sorts in a must win home game against the Trojans. They didn’t play well together, relied too much on attacking 1 on 1, and didn’t make stops when they needed to.

Had Oregon completed the miraculous comeback I’m certain the follow up stories would have praised the Duck’s heart for sticking it out, for not giving up, for hitting big shots.

The truth is they would have been lucky. Against WSU and UCLA Oregon played very well for 38 minutes and bad for the final 2 minutes. Against USC, the Ducks played well for just those 2 minutes. The bottom line is that neither recipe is good enough to win in the Pac 10 this year. And without 10 Conference wins I don’t like their chances of getting in.
A.D. Smith

Smith began his playing career at Churchill High and led the Lancers to their first state championship in 1995. A two time All-State selection and 1995 State Player of the Year, Smith stepped up to the Pac-10 as an All-conference player for the Ducks. In four years he was voted three times as a team captain, three times as a 1st team Academic All conference selection and twice as an Academic All American. In his final two years AD led the Ducks to the NIT Final Four and the NCAA Tournament.

In June of 2000, he finished his playing career and graduated with an MBA. After leaving the Ducks in 2000, AD played 6 years in Europe and Australia and won a National Championship and playoff MVP in Copenhagen Denmark.

AD is currently a Real Estate Broker for Keller Williams Realty in Eugene. He specializes in Residential Real Estate- working with both buyers and sellers.

He and his wife, Kelly, have two daughters, Abigail and Isabelle.

DSN: Did UO Violate Its Own Code of ConDUCKt?

Saturday, January 26th, 2008

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JJ, here.

I just want to let you know that I’m not going to moralize right now, even though I think there are plenty of reasons to do so. Instead, I just want to ask some simple questions about the actions of the fans (specifically, the student section, “The Pit Crew”) at the UCLA-Oregon game on Thursday night.

That’s all.

Well, almost all. I might have a few moralizing thoughts, here or there…

And I want to use the University of Oregon Athletic Department’s Code of ConDUCKt as a place to start.

If you’re not familiar with the entire “Code of ConDUCKt”, here it is.

Here’s an excerpt:

The Code of ConDUCKt requests fans to refrain from disruptive behavior, including foul language and obscene gestures; to sit only in their ticketed seats; to comply with requests from event staff; and use of tobacco products is only allowed in designated areas.

At Thursday’s game, I heard Don Essig refer to the Code of ConDUCKt in his pre-game announcements. So, that leads me to a couple of questions:

Question: Were fans engaging in “disruptive behavior”?

DSN (JJ): Probably, but that’s a hard one to determine. What’s the definition of “disruptive behavior”? It could mean anything from yelling “fire” to hitting someone. I really didn’t see any of that. Although, I think there was a lot of gasoline getting tossed around.

Question: Was there “foul language”?

DSN (JJ): Yes. “Kevin’s a p~$$#”. I think “f@%%&#” was also used. And I’m sure there was other language used that I just didn’t hear. Also, quite a number signs used foul language, as well.

Question: Were there “obscene gestures”?

DSN (JJ): Yeah. Saw those, too. I think the middle finger was the most popular one. Actually, I kept on seeing the same student do that right above Athletic Director Pat Kilkenny’s head, who was seated right in front of the student section on the floor. And could the contents of a sign be considered an “obscene gesture”? Maybe.

Here’s another excerpt:

“The University of Oregon is committed to doing everything it can to help ensure that its sporting events are safe and enjoyable for all spectators. With the Code of ConDUCKt and related efforts in place, Autzen Stadium will continue to be a premier venue for college football,” President Frohnmayer said.

Assuming that President Frohnmayer still believes this to be true and should be applied to all sports venues, here are a few more questions to think about:

Question: Was that game “safe and enjoyable for all spectators”?

DSN (JJ): I don’t think so. Just ask the Loves. What the Loves have done in the past does not matter here. What the Duck fans did Thursday night is the issue. Was it safe? Was it safe for the Loves? Yeah…after they had a complement of police officers surrounding them that would rival the President’s Secret Service protection. Was it “enjoyable” for them? Even though UCLA got the win, I doubt the experience was enjoyable.

But was the game even enjoyable for Duck fans? Probably not. It’s been described as stomach-turning, embarrassing, vile, disgusting, inappropriate, and foul. And that’s coming from Duck fans. When parents have to start telling their children “ear-muffs” at games, that’s not probably not “enjoyable”.

So, is the University of Oregon committed to making it safe and enjoyable for all fans, or just the ones that aren’t the Loves?

Here’s an excerpt from former Athletics Director Bill Moos:

“It is of utmost importance to the university that the behavior at our athletic events is consistent with the high standards for which we are known,” Moos emphasized. “I applaud the good work by members of my staff in addressing this concern and ask that our great fans be more conscious of how they treat each other while making Autzen Stadium the toughest place to play in the Pac-10.”

I’m going to assume current Athletics Director Pat Kilkenny agrees. If that’s the case…

Question: Was that game “consistent with the high standards for which we are known“?

DSN (JJ): No. Actually, I think Mac Court set a new low standard. And don’t kid yourself. For as much good will as Dennis Dixon pocketed for Oregon during the football season, Oregon just blew it all during the UCLA game. And Oregon is taking an absolute beating in the national press because of that game.

Question: Have members of the Athletics Department staff addressed these concerns?

DSN (JJ): I don’t know. But it doesn’t sound like they are going to be addressing these concerns. Here’s what the University of Oregon’s Greg Walker told the Los Angeles Times:

Greg Walker, a spokesman for the Oregon athletic department, acknowledged that some of the chants and signs were in poor taste. “But the other side of this is a free speech issue,” Walker said. “We don’t have the authority to take away signs. We don’t agree with all the things that were said or that they were in the best of taste. We’re aware of everything that was said and we’re not always proud. But there is a right to free speech.”

Question: Are signs at a University of Oregon basketball game a free speech issue?

DSN (JJ): I don’t think so. And why do I think that? Because the U of O says so. Let’s look back to the University of Oregon’s Code of ConDUCKt:

Spectators who refuse to abide by the behavior guidelines are subject to removal from the stadium, as well as the revocation of season tickets and/or the right to purchase single-game tickets to future University of Oregon events.

Question: What can the University of Oregon do in the future to prevent the concerns?

DSN (JJ): According to their own code, fans can be removed from the venue, have their season tickets revoked, and prevented from purchasing any tickets (to any events) for not complying with their code.

But here are a few more, less draconian (maybe more) steps they can take in addition to the ones mentioned in the code if things don’t improve:

- Ban all signs from Mac Court

- Discontinue the Pit Crew practice of lining up before the game

- Decertify the Pit Crew as a student organization

- Reduce student allotment of tickets

- Disperse the students to various sections around Mac Court

There’s one more thing that could be done: if the chanting happens again, Mr. Frohnmayer or Mr. Kilkenny could take the mic from Don Essig, apologize, and nicely request that the chanting stop.

And why is this a concern? Because it’s going to happen again when Washington and Ryan Appleby come to Mac Court.

Here are a couple of questions for you:

Question: Do you want the University of Oregon associated with that behavior?

Question: Do you think the behavior at the UCLA game did the University of Oregon any good?

Question: How would the University of Oregon have been viewed if they had at least been indifferent towards the Loves?

There are a lot of questions here. Fortunately, the University of Oregon doesn’t have to go very far to find the answers. They already know them.

Whether the U of O chooses to do anything is another question.

JJ

[Editor's note: If you are a regular visitor to DSN, you probably saw the posts we had on what to expect at the UCLA game (Pit Crew: Tonight, There Will Be Signs & Here’s What You Can Expect From The Pit Crew). Let me make this clear: I'm not against the Pit Crew having fun and making Mac Court an intimidating place for opposing teams. I anticipated more of a fun ESPN College Gameday feel to it, as opposed to what materialized Thursday night. And that's the spirit those other posts were made in.]


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Pit Crew: Tonight, There Will Be Signs

Thursday, January 24th, 2008

JJ, here.

The Pit Crew has been kind of enough to send Duck Sports News a preview of one of the signs that will be featured at tonight’s UCLA-UO game.  And I want to thank Max and the Pit Crew for sending us one of their more tame signs (that’s assuming you consider “hate” to be tame) as a preview of what fans can expect to see tonight.

As a side note, Inside UCLA’s Brian Dohn was on with George Schroeder and Justin Myers today on “The Writer’s Block” and noted that not only was Mac Court the best home court in the Pac-10, but also remarked on how well organized the Pit Crew is when it comes to student sections.

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Here’s What You Can Expect From The Pit Crew

Wednesday, January 23rd, 2008

JJ, here.

There’s a big, bad monster coming to town named Kevin Love. And the Pit Crew has had this date circled on the calendar for a long time.

Make no mistake about it: Thursday’s game against UCLA is the Pit Crew’s “Cloverfield”.

But unlike “Cloverfield”, Duck Sports News has been given a sneak peak as to the verbal artillery the Pit Crew is going to unleash on UCLA’s freshman center, Kevin Love.

[Editor's note: Is this a bit sophomoric? Probably. However, from a practical point of view, sometimes I can't make out what the Pit Crew is chanting. Knowing ahead of time what I should be listening for will help.]

Here are some of the highlights from the “Pit Crew Post” (the Pit Crew’s publication):

- “Oregon In The News”

ESPN Bracketolgist Joe Lunardi has Oregon as a 9 seed in the South Region, playing Texas A&M in the first round, with Memphis in the second round game.

ESPN.com’s Andy Katz mentioned in his weekly preview “Kevin Love knows he’s going to be vilified by the McArthur Court crowd. The question is can he withstand the verbal assaults” and “Oregon can establish itself with a home sweep of the L.A. schools.” Let’s not disappoint Mr. Katz.

- “UCLA Dirt”

[Stan Love] flipped off high school students during Kevin’s junior year before a game.

Boo [Kevin Love] every time he touches the ball and beep like a truck when he backs down in the paint.

[Editor's note: Well, it's probably not good when there are multiple editor's notes. But here's another one about the notes in this section.

It appears that the Pit Crew has Kevin Love's cell phone number. Are we going to reprint it here? No. Although, it's not much different than the ESPN College GameDay signs featuring Nate Longshore's cell phone number. But I do have Mr. Underhill's Visa number, if you want that.

Expect the Crew to make fun of Kevin's father & ex-Duck Stan Love. And it looks like they will be targeting Lorenza Mata-Real, as well (if he plays).]

- “Chants”

For Kevin Love: Fatt-y, Lake-O Hates You, U-O Hates You, Tread-mill, Sing-ler’s Bet-ter

For Stan Love: Burn-out, Psy-cho par-ent, Beach Boy Beat-er

For UCLA: Ni-ke re-jects, Ni-ke’s bet-ter. UCLA is an adidas school

- “Notable”

Wear yellow to EVERY game. If you see someone not wearing yellow at a game, encourage them to wear yellow for the next game.

To round out their publication, the Pit Crew was kind enough to publish the lyrics to “DuckTales”:

Life is like a hurricane here in Duckburg
Race cars, lasers, aeroplanes - it’s a duck blur
You might solve a mystery or rewrite history

Duck Tales, Oo-oo
Tales of derring-do, bad and good luck tales, oo-oo

D-d-d-danger, watch behind you - there’s a stranger out to find you
What to do? Just grab onto some Duck Tales, oo-oo!
Not pony tails or cotton tails but Duck Tales, oo-oo!

Duck Tales, Oo-oo
Tales of derring-do, bad and good luck tales, oo-oo
Not pony tails or cotton tails but Duck Tales, oo-oo!

And “Mighty Oregon”:

Oregon, our Alma Mater
We will guard thee on and on
Fellows gather round and cheer her
Chant her glory Oregon
Roar the praises of her warriors
Sing the story Oregon
On to victory urge the heroes
Of our mighty Oregon!

[Editor's note: One of the Pit Crew's admins has informed me that there will be inflatables at this game.  Hopefully, parents won't have to cover up their kid's eyes at this game.  Although, this might be a case for "ear muffs".]

High road? What high road is this you speak of?

As much as I agree with Bob Rickert’s suggested anti-Nike approach to Kevin Love, “Just Don’t Do It” sentiment, I don’t think that’s an option. Although, I think a version of that approach would be interesting, unnerving, and doable. What if the Pit Crew (and the fans) simply turned their back on Kevin Love in complete silence? I’m talking “pin drop” silence. Now, that would make a statement because sometimes silence can be deafening. And I know that’s probably something he’s never heard before.

But I don’t expect that to happen. Instead, I’m anticipating one of the best home theater, surround sound performances ever from the Pit Crew, Duck fans, and Mac Court. Probably a performance worthy of Monster cables.